Examining Rookies Isaiah Prince & Chandler Cox

Can Rookies Prince and Cox help fix the Phins O-line woes?

Dolphins GM Chris Grier added Tackle Isaiah Prince and Fullback Chandler Cox late in the draft to bolster a Miami offense with a long history of poor blocking…

… But can these two bottom end picks make the team, much less have any real impact?

Of the two, Cox is likely to bring production earlier. Prince has some strong flaws in his game and will need a couple of seasons to ‘ungreen’. Reality is though, both could end up on the Practice Squad as make the team.

Beyond the hope of Phins Fans, most late-round picks don’t make it…

From the excellent article “The Chance of a Bust in the NFL Draft” (here), “You can see from about round 6 (pick 160) and later, the percent chance of failing on a draft pick is over 70%. With such a low hit rate, NFL teams should focus their decision making on players that fit their current schema and can be a strong contributor on special teams.”

Therefore, I expect Cox the most likely to stick by getting light duty in 2019 on Special Teams and as a blocking back on run and pass downs. But, while Prince has flaws he also has some exceptional attributes… and could end up the much better pick. He just needs to make early strides in a few key areas.

Chandler Cox could bring the Fullback position back to Miami

Cox could be Miami first full back since Lousaka Polite. Yes, there was Charles Clay, but he was more of an H-Back. The H-Back role will be manned by Smythe or O’Leary. Cox, if he sticks, will be a dedicated Fullback. Interesting note: Every AFCE now has a Fullback.

Guess the death of the position is greatly exaggerated?!

Here’s DraftAnalyst.com evaluation of Cox

The pros: “Hard-working fullback with solid ball-handling skill. Explosive at the point, keeps his head on a swivel and always looks for someone to hit. Does enough to get a pad on defenders and disrupt their angles of attack. Stays with assignments, sees the blitz and squares into defenders. Effective pass catcher out of the backfield who snatches the ball away from his frame with his hands and turns it upfield to pick up extra yardage.”

The cons: “Possesses average strength as a blocker.”

Miami will have H-backs and a Fullback to make a very physical offense

After watching some tape on Cox I agree with this assessment. His blocking was all out effort, but very few K.O.s. His Pro Day lift of 18 reps of 225lbs along with the tape gave a load of credence to Draft Analyst.com’s assessment.

This lift number is somewhat concerning… But this is an easily correctable flaw. In my stint in Junior college, I played at 185 and I could push 225lbs 16 times. Either Cox isn’t being trained right, or he has genetic limits. He’s a dogged worker at a top program, so it surprised me to see such a low number. But, again if it’s just a diet and program thing, Cox could blossom and be a real find.

However you slice it, DraftScout.com ranks Cox as the No. 4 fullback in the draft and thought he’d get selected as high as the sixth round. So Miami made a good decision to draft Cox because he fits their schema: tough, smart, team focused and can play Special Teams

The interesting part about his signing is his skill set cross those of Smythe and O’Leary. Can the Dolphins carry all three on the roster?

Prince has elite and unteachable tools… but some strong flaws too

Prince is smart, strong, big, experienced, has the right mindset, and tree limb 35 1/2” reach. He is so close to the elite makeup… But he has the tall man’s kryptonite: poor knee bend that creates terrible leverage.

Balance, leverage, play strength was always a concern with Prince… and he knew it better than anyone. You could see in his play he overcompensated with outside leverage focus… which ended costing him the inside. The good news is he flashed enough that development and time could get him right enough to start.

Again, Prince has the right mental makeup. His combine interview had many gems, but the key one was ‘I just want to be the best version of me’. That sounds like it came right out of Brian Flores’ mouth. The wisdom and maturity Prince showed in this clip offer a ton of promise he can overcome his flaws.

But, the reality is he must improve these flaws or the NFL will send him out of the league with rocket boosters on his tail. Here’s a smattering of plays from the 2018 Ohio / Michigan game. Most of these plays he’s going against Chase Winovich who is now a member of the Patriots.

Given his level of trouble with Winovich an elite edge player would destroy Prince

Princes stats as provided by PFF:

This stat line makes a good bet with the pay per heads that Prince isn’t ready for the big stage… yet.

DraftScout.com graded Prince as a middle round pick and assessed Prince’s weaknesses as such:

  • Wasted motion getting out of snap and into block fit
  • Straight-legged playing style creates imbalance
  • Below average in creating leverage
  • Tries to use helmet to dig up under opponent’s pads
  • Inconsistent angles to second level
  • Body control can come and go due to pad level
  • Narrows base width and opens turns shoulder too early
  • Feet too often unsettled into pass punch
  • Still working to eliminate hitch when throwing hands
  • Fails to unlock hips to anchor

Most of these issues can be mitigated or overcome. Look at what the Patriots did with Trent Brown. Of course, they have legend Dante Scarnecchia.

Maybe a true vet like Dolphin new Offensive Line coach Pat Flaherty can work some magic of his own?!

Go Phins!!!

P.S. My Facebook issue “appears” to be resolved… I’m going back now to answer missed replies.

P.S.S. Here is the full Ohio / Michigan game if you want a full look at Prince… and also to see why the Dolphins passed on Haskins.

5 comments

  • admin

    Hey, Randy: “He (Prince) does look awkward playing so tall. Like you said, maybe Flaherty can coach it out of him. I’d love to see him make the team, but not as a weak point on the line. I think we still have some veteran free agent shopping to do.”

    We picked up Mills… doing a study on him now… but cursory look says Davis will beat him out if someone is good enough to push Davis out of RG. Prince is the type of player who could pop up as a surprise in a year or two. I don’t see him ready this year… but you never know.

  • Van

    I am not worried about Cox’s bench. I want to know what he squats and his jerk and clean. A good fullback uses leverage, angles and drive more than pushing off.
    Prince is another story. Lots of issues. He isn’t lifting his opponent and pushing off. He is walking the rusher off. This technique leads to a footrace where the defense usually wins. Prince needs to make initial contact, drop his butt, and then drive up under the defender while twisting his opponent’s upper torso to throw him off balance.
    We need to see his drive blocks in more detail.

    • admin

      When I played I lifted with the TE’s and DE’s. I was a wanna’ be powerlifter. I cleaned and jerked 240 on my 1 rep max. You are half correct about the clean and jerk… BUT, bench works delts and triceps as much as the chest. You finish with your arm extension and upper body drive. That’s how you get pancakes. This is why Ol have benching as a core test. Cox has stalemates and lack powers.
      Prince is a long story about his blocking. He is similar to Davis. Davis though has more bend and is more powerful. My two cents he needs to get strong and bigger rely on his technique and reach and even learn to drop his ass an inch or two more. His legs are thick, but he’s awkward and nervous over his weaknesses. I need to see him more though after camp. Pats take guys like this and break them out after 2-3 seasons… I expect something similar. Pats though only carry 8 OL… that’s pretty brazen… but they always do well with injuries. So many variables, Van. Really excited to dig into this season. I expect Davis to start at RT and do well.

  • will play a bit. maybe a future starter. 6th round picks are projects, mostly. We should have taken an Offensive Lineman with the 2nd round pick. I just don’t have confidence in Rosen

    • admin

      I was with you 100% on Rosen and a lineman in the 2nd… BUT the traceback that picked up an extra 2nd really made me do a Uturn. If they can even get Rosen looking like a B grade QB, they’ll earn that 2nd back and more. I can’t find fault in it, brother. I also think I had fallen victim to the media bias that was being pushed. I do like Prince and at that late in the draft, you are correct… they are mostly projects or cuts. I do have a good feeling about him, but I think he needs some heavy TLC with certain areas. I just don’t see him being ready in 2019, though. Hope I’m wrong…